From Confusion to Confidence: How Kelly Nailed His Triathlon Nutrition Strategy

When Kelly Estes returned to triathlon after years away, he quickly realised that training alone wasn’t going to cut it. He had tried to piece together his nutrition using articles, YouTube videos and podcasts, but nothing quite clicked.

💬 “I didn’t find that sweet spot until I found the Triathlon Nutrition Academy. It’s made a world of difference.”

From Guessing to Clarity

Before joining the Academy, Kelly was stuck in the all-too-common cycle of trial and error. Trying different gels, bars, powders, and hoping something would stick. It left him second-guessing whether he was doing the right thing and unsure if his fuelling strategy was actually helping or hindering his performance.

💬 “Having a good nutrition program takes out the guesswork… I became better at being a consistent triathlete with my training.”

Training Smarter, Racing Faster

Since joining the TNA program, Kelly has seen real results, not just in race performance, but in his everyday energy, recovery and body composition.

✅ Leaner body composition
✅ More energy day to day
✅ Faster race results
✅ Total confidence in fuelling strategy
✅ No more day time naps!

💬 “I’m probably as lean as I’ve ever been. My weight’s down, but I’m performing as well as I ever have with plenty of energy.”

From the Office to Ironman in 18 Months

Kelly’s comeback story is nothing short of inspiring. In just 18 months, he went from a desk job to finishing an Ironman, powered by a structured training program and the confidence of a dialled-in nutrition plan.

💬 “A lot of that was confidence in my nutrition as well as confidence in a training program.”

Want to Stop Guessing Too?

If you’re tired of piecing together your nutrition advice from random sources and ready for a clear, structured approach designed specifically for triathletes, then it’s time to join the Triathlon Nutrition Academy.

Train harder, recover faster, and race with confidence.

Transcript

Taryn Richardson (00:01)
Kelly, thank you so much for joining me today to talk about All Things Triathlon, All Things Nutrition.

Kelly Estes (00:07)
I'm excited to be here.

Taryn Richardson (00:10)
So Kelly, to kick us off, can you give us a bit of a snapshot about what type of triathlete you are?

Kelly Estes (00:17)
Yeah, so I'm an age group triathlete that really got back into triathlon about three and a half years ago. And that was whenever I retired and had time to be able to train. So I had done some triathlon back in 2006, but it was only for one summer. And I kind of got a feel for the time commitment at that time. So it ended up that I really couldn't get committed again until I retired three and a half years ago. And so here I am.

Able to train all the time, which I do. so three and a half years ago, I started training. And when I started training, really started to understand what kind of training program I probably needed and nutrition program I really needed. But I got started into racing right away. I did a half marathon right away, and then I did 12 Olympic distance triathlons in the last three and a half years. And I've done 6 x 70.3 races and then I also did a full Ironman distance and that Ironman distance I did that within 18 months of starting my training. So it was really a huge commitment but since then I've just really tried to integrate triathlon into a lifestyle and that's the kind of triathlete I am now is that this is a way of life and I'm committed to it.

Taryn Richardson (01:18)
Yeah!

Kelly Estes (01:41)
and I'll continue to race, but just the training and the social interactions is just a wonderful experience.

Taryn Richardson (01:48)
It is an amazing sport and you have the luxury of time now being retired, although you filled that very quickly by doing a lot of training. And I guess the choice to train at a time that suits you too is, a real luxury, I think.

Kelly Estes (02:03)
Yeah. Well, there is so much to it because a lot of what you'll teach in the Triathlon Nutrition Academy is the nutrition and the rest and recovery that goes along with training. So my training week, you know, I'll spend somewhere 13 to 15 hours a week actually doing some form of training, you know, run, bike, swim, strength training. But I probably spend another 20ish hours a week preparing to train, eating, you know, before and after.

And so the week is pretty full with this, and then I make sure I get plenty of sleep. And it just consumes the whole week pretty quickly.

Taryn Richardson (02:41)
Yeah, it is definitely a lifestyle choice, I think, but a good one to do, particularly being retired from full-time work these days.

Kelly Estes (02:45)
Yeah.

Kelly Estes (02:51)
Yeah, I couldn't do it if I had a full-time job. I would struggle doing a very good job of being a triathlon athlete. It would be hard.

Taryn Richardson (02:59)
Yeah, cause you're, you're a like do everything to the best of your ability type person, like similar to myself, like want to do everything perfectly and you know, understanding your training and even nutrition is something that you really want to dive into deeply and have a full understanding. Like you've even done a nutrition course and you're considering doing coaching or triathlon training type education to upskill yourself because you do want to do everything.

Kelly Estes (03:07)
Yeah.

Taryn Richardson (03:28)
And improve your performance with all the little levers that you can pull to do that. So you joined the TNA program, I don't know what 12 months into your triathlon journey. that right?

Kelly Estes (03:31)
Yeah.

Kelly Estes (03:39)
Well, I started in January, I started triathlon training in January of 2022 and I joined the Triathlon Nutrition Academy that September. had been looking for, yeah, I I was looking for nutrition advice or what to do, just like everybody else. I was trying to figure out what to do with nutrition right away. I knew how important it was and it took till September for me to find you and your program and that changed everything.

Taryn Richardson (03:48)
So nine months.

Taryn Richardson (04:06)
And so what are some of the biggest wins that you've had since educating yourself on triathlon nutrition and some of your highlights since joining the TNA program?

Kelly Estes (04:17)
Yeah, Having a good nutrition program, the one probably the biggest thing is it takes out the guesswork of all the trial and error associated with trying different food, different gels, different bars, powders, supplements and things like that. It takes all the guesswork out of knowing if I am doing the right thing. So as I went...

into the Triathlon Nutrition Academy, the thing that really came from this was I became better at being a consistent triathlete with my training. My body composition changed quite a bit. I'm really very lean right now, probably as lean as I've ever been. My weight's down, but yet I'm as high as performance as I've ever been in my life. And I have plenty of energy, I really feel good, so that's been a big change.

My race results I keep getting faster and faster over time and as I mentioned before I went from Retirement sitting on you know sitting at a desk for a job to Ironman in 18 months and a lot of that was Confidence in my nutrition as well as confidence in a training program Then of course, there's the money saved. I think you've you saved me about $600 US dollars a month US dollars a month

Taryn Richardson (05:38)
$ U.S. yep.

Kelly Estes (05:42)
by cutting out these specialty powders and things that I was using for nutrition that I didn't understand the value of, not the value, in terms of the nutritional value of was it benefiting me or not. And so after I went through the Triathlon Nutrition Academy, I learned all about how to think of nutrition and what helps me and what doesn't. And so if I eliminated all those products that were not helping me, that was $600 a month that I stopped spending on that and I started spending it on.

other stuff, know, new triathlon stuff. And of course my blood work really improved. You know, I'm really just very healthy in every way and that's why I just really have made triathlon a big part of my lifestyle that is just such a good thing. It's a good thing for me.

Taryn Richardson (06:29)
I love how much money I've saved you, which you've now then funneled into buying more triathlon specific things like a wetsuit and a bike box and all those sorts of things.

Kelly Estes (06:33)
Mm-hmm. Okay. Yes. Yeah, my savings account's not growing, but my equipment, I've got all kinds of good stuff for training.

Taryn Richardson (06:47)
At least you're not adding to your spend to a multi-billion dollar supplement industry that you didn't need to before. I'm happy with that.

Kelly Estes (06:53)
Right, that's right. I'm not wasting money. You saved me a lot of... That's what's nice about your program is I don't feel like anything's wasted anymore. I feel confident, so confident in my nutrition and what I'm doing that it's like, it's kind of crazy that you might think of it as an insanity cycle that I was in of trying different gels, trying different products and thinking or wondering if I was getting better but I didn't really have a way to know. And you've taken out all that guesswork and made it so...

easy for me to know that I'm doing the right thing. it's like, know, I just, you know, looking back at the way I used to do it, it's insane what I used to do.

Taryn Richardson (07:33)
So looking back to old Kelly days, what was your nutrition like before compared to what it's like now?

Kelly Estes (07:41)
Yeah, you know so back then I wasn't really sure what to eat day to day and one of the things that you have is what's called a healthy lifestyle challenge that helps you understand how to eat day to day in terms of fruits and vegetables and other nutritional aspects that really has made such a huge difference. Used to I didn't have that kind of guidance so I wasn't sure. So I thought I was doing a lot of things to eat healthy.

But I wasn't really understanding a lot of the ingredients and the foods that I was eating. I was eating a lot of highly processed foods. I wasn't eating that much fruit and vegetables. And I was doing a lot of trial and error with gels and stuff. I was trying all kinds of gels. Some of the gels were not carbohydrate gels. They were just protein gels. Some products out there are just protein gels for training.

And I'd go out and train and I would use it. And sometimes you could feel the difference, sometimes you couldn't. But I really never knew what was going on. So that was the trial and error and the insanity cycle of thinking that I'm trying something that is going to help. And I try it and I can't tell. I couldn't tell with any certainty if it was helping me. And until I joined the Triathlon Nutrition Academy and learned, you know, got the education, I didn't really know.

how things were benefiting me or not. Because a lot of things don't benefit you right away. It takes a little bit of time to see the benefit.

Taryn Richardson (09:18)
I remember really clearly, like right in the beginning, we talk about recovery nutrition and your pre-training nutrition, because those two bookends around your training, where you're going to have some of the biggest gains. Like you get your biggest bang for your buck out of your session. If you get those bits right. And I remember early days you posting in the, our community group, like, here's what I'm doing for pre-training. Here's what I'm doing for recovery. And it was like all packaged bars and foods and things like that. And I was like, that's, you know, great start, Kelly, good job.

Kelly Estes (09:27)
Yeah.

Taryn Richardson (09:48)
let's kind of think if we can head this direction. And now, now you've completely changed what you did for both of those things in nutrition. And it's just, I guess, having an understanding of the targets that you're to hit and then working to a plan that actually fits you and fits your lifestyle.

Kelly Estes (10:08)
Well, and and that's a good point you're making that whenever I first started with with TNA I Was doing a lot of training fasted so I just get up in the morning and I would go out the door and I would do an hour or so of training and And I didn't fuel Properly and so you taught us about how to fuel properly before training and how to recover afterwards

And that's been so very important in terms of just how I feel throughout the day and for how I feel in terms of getting ready for the days coming up, the training, tomorrow's training and the day after. And so, yeah, that's a huge difference. So, you know, it was a journey that I started out where I was fasted and I learned that wasn't smart. And then I had all these special highly processed bars that I was eating and foods.

And I thought, hey, I'm better, I'm getting better. And then I learned about how that didn't necessarily benefit me. And then I migrated towards healthier whole foods and more fruits and vegetables and just all these things that I've learned that has made it even better. But it's still a journey that I'm on. Even though you've taught me all these things this been, what, two years ago, I'm still migrating towards a healthier lifestyle a little bit at a time.

Kelly Estes (11:30)
It just takes time.

Taryn Richardson (11:30)
Yeah, and it's food, it's food behavior and food change that does take time. It's not a instantaneous, you you're suddenly fixed and you can't learn this stuff by osmosis because you've had habits and behaviors your entire life that were potentially challenging. So it is a journey, but we're an endurance athlete. So we need to play the long game because that's what we're good at. The zone two nutrition education.

Kelly Estes (11:52)
Yeah. And so as triathlon is a lifestyle, so is the nutrition that comes along with it, is that you get better and better over time. You get smarter. You make better choices. And it's just a wonderful journey.

Taryn Richardson (12:11)
Out of all the things you've learnt, Kelly, like we cover so many topics in TNA, we basically leave no stone left unturned when it comes to what to eat for three sports. What do you think has been your most valuable lesson?

Kelly Estes (12:26)
Well, I think it's back to not training in a fasted condition, but also fueling the training. Making sure that you get the right nutrition to fuel your training before and afterwards, because it really just affects your life in so many ways. So it was understanding how to fuel properly, because I really had no idea what the long-term benefits were in terms of what I was doing. That if I'm training fasted,

I didn't realize how that was hurting me. Right? You just don't know until you change the way that you eat and then you see your performance improving and then it kind of settles in. So it becomes this thing about learning to, this phrase is used in other programs, but you learn to trust the process. You learn to trust that if you're following a good nutrition program,

that's really, for yours is an education program. It's not some book that I've read and I'm trying to remember what to do or some app that I'm following or someone's told me what to do. You your program's an education program where I'm learning the right things to do. You give us tools, lots of spreadsheets and things to help understand how to calculate day-to-day nutrition or carb loading or race day nutrition or sweat testing.

There's all these things that you provide that allow me to know with certainty that I'm on the right track that I couldn't get any other way. There's no other program is offering it. And you mentioned earlier, I took another nutrition course. I took a course through precision nutrition where I got a certificate and I think I could be what's considered a nutrition coach. And I never, I wouldn't do that. Yeah, it's like, oh gosh. I don't think I've.

Taryn Richardson (14:14)
Oh god.

Kelly Estes (14:20)
would want to be a nutrition coach, but I wanted that knowledge. And that course didn't provide me nearly the triathlon specific knowledge that you provide. In fact, I can't find any other program that provides that level of knowledge that you provide us, that specific level of knowledge that a triathlon needs. I don't know if there's any program that offers it. There's no app. There's apps that do certain things that'll tell you what you should eat.

Taryn Richardson (14:23)
Yeah.

Kelly Estes (14:49)
but you still don't necessarily know why or how to modify it in certain situations. know, books. It's difficult to digest it all and understand how to adapt it in changing situations and also to be specific for me as a triathlete.

Taryn Richardson (15:04)
Yeah, I don't think anything exists like this at this point in time, but there's no, there is no education program so that you can understand how to do things for yourself. Like I am not a gatekeeper. Once you're inside there, you get access to my two decades of experience working with triathletes as an advanced sports dietician. There's no gatekeeping whatsoever. And everything that I've learned, I want to impart on you so that you can make decisions for yourself and

troubleshoot if you need to or change things on the fly because when you do do a lot of training, there's a lot of value in being able to adapt your plan quite rapidly and quite quickly. Otherwise, if you kind of hang around in no man's land or doing the wrong thing for an extended period of time, that's where troubles arise. You know, you get sick, you get injured, and we can do some pretty serious long-term damage to our bodies if we aren't putting the right building blocks in at the right time. So I think we are at this point the only one.

Kelly Estes (16:05)
Yeah, and so I've mentioned in other conversations that your Triathlon Nutrition Academy program is to nutrition as, you know, I use the Tridot training platform.

So your nutrition program is for triathlon nutrition as Tridot is for training. So Tridot uses all this data and it uses AI supported programs to provide you an optimized training program. And so you follow a program like that and after my three and a half years of training with Tridot, I'm very comfortable in trusting the.

that they're gonna lead me to a successful race because it has been successful race after race, year after year. And so your nutrition program is very comparable in terms of the results. There's no other program that I'm aware of that provides you that level of confidence where you can consistently perform better and better over time and know that you're on the right track. That you provide the education and the tools to give a person confidence that they're on the right track and that, you know.

You're not going to find a better program that's going to help you get where you want to be nutritionally any faster or any better or any cheaper than what you do for us.

Taryn Richardson (17:23)
tick, tick and tick. 

So for your investment, do get 36 master classes that dive deep on a particular topic. As an example, we've got a master class on carbohydrate loading and how to do that properly, because I've not met one athlete that knows how to do that properly without some education. We cover your sprint, Olympics, 17.3 and 140.6 race nutrition plans and everything that goes with that. So dialing in like your gut training, your hydration, your caffeine, your fueling and all those things as well as tackling your day-to-day nutrition and making sure you have an understanding of how to do that for triathlon. Because I think again, that's the biggest limiter or roadblock to triathletes is that they just eat like they are just running or just cycling, or they are still on a weight loss program from the gym and they're not actually eating to fuel the sport.

We also have access to My Triathletes kitchen and all the tools and resources to help you eat better and save time and money to make that process of what you actually eat, like applying the theory to the practice, make that as simple as possible. Cause I know how time poor you are and not everyone is a chef. We also have an amazing community of triathletes all over the world. Now think we have most continents covered. Out of all the things that you get when you do join, what do you think is your favourite part about the program?

Kelly Estes (18:58)
Yeah, well I was kind of hoping you'd ask that because the things that continue to be very valuable to me after having completed all the course work is the power hours where we actually get together in a group environment with other triathletes that's completed the TNA program and we talk about what we've learned and we have questions about new products, new gels, know, what's on the race course, what's going to be at the aid stations and whether we think it's going to be beneficial or not.

And so having those conversations is really very valuable. But also, all those tools that you provide us, the spreadsheets, the things that help us calculate my specific nutritional needs for race day. know, that's back to, there's no other program that I know of that provides those tools that allow me to calculate my specific nutritional needs, whether it's carb loading, race day, or day-to-day activities.

that, you know, to feel, to know that I'm doing the right things. And it's really nice, those tools are really very accurate, because you can compare it to other tools that are available to you, to see, and see that, you know, they all kind of tell you similar information, but your program helps you understand why you're doing it, and that it is the right thing for you individually. It's really nice. So power hours and those tools.

Taryn Richardson (20:24)
I actually missed saying power hour in my list of features. So thank you for bringing that up, but you do have access to me most weeks live in a format where we can have a conversation and make sure you're not stuck with your nutrition. Like you do some learning and you put it in practice for yourself because you are your own little unique unicorn individual. And it's not a generic cookie cutter, vanilla type plan where everyone gets the same thing.

You actually have your bespoke plan that's custom to you and who you are as a triathlete. And it is one of my favorite parts of the program too, because I get to connect with people all over the world. But you also benefit from listening to somebody else's take on what we're talking about. So say recovery nutrition, somebody might have a question that you didn't even think about asking. And so you then benefit from your questions and your understanding as well as extending that, not outside the box, but extending it in a different way.

Because you're going down the tangent of somebody else's brain and how that works. And so that I found that has been really valuable for people as well.

Kelly Estes (21:29)
Yeah, in the power hour, we have those people from all over the world that they're so, you know, I've got all these new friends from Australia, right? I live in the United States, but I've got friends in Canada and in Australia. And there's, know, of course, people in there from New Zealand. it's just a wonderful experience to share that level of knowledge because...

Taryn Richardson (21:35)
Yeah.

Kelly Estes (21:50)
You also see that everybody's got the same fundamental problems, right? The same things that they're trying to solve and we share the experience and it's really very, very helpful.

Taryn Richardson (22:00)
I think we have, we have athletes from the UK, America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Europe, India, and Taiwan covered in the program. And I'm trying to work on getting Kelly to do his, you know, summers in Australia versus summers in the U S so that he spends, you know, half of the year here, half of the year over there. That'd be pretty cool.

Kelly Estes (22:26)
Yeah, I would love that. Yeah, I'd love to figure that out. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be great.

Taryn Richardson (22:32)
The eternal summer, that's my goal also. Never have to face winter.

Taryn Richardson (22:40)
So one of the things you've said a lot today is like the confidence that you're doing, what you're doing and you know that it's working for you. can you pinpoint or do you know of any of the things that have really helped you build that confidence to support like nutrition for training and racing?

Kelly Estes (23:00)
Well, I'm the kind of person that likes to have some facts, data, to let me know that I'm doing the right things. We have spreadsheets or any kind of data, and that's one of the reasons I really like the Try.Program is you have data, you can see the results, and it helps you know.

Taryn Richardson (23:09)
spreadsheet junkie.

Kelly Estes (23:21)
as well as watching your performance over time, you know that you're on the right track. So with nutrition, it's kind of the same thing with the tools that you provided. You can watch your performance over time and you can watch your weight if you want. You can watch your body fat percentage as well as your speed in races, as well as just your perceived effort or just your emotional well-being and all those things. And over time as you see all those things improving,

You know that you're doing the right thing, right? You know that you must be doing the right thing, but but it's also because as you've taught us what kinds of things to eat and how to look at a gel and tell if the amount of carbs fructose or glucose or other Ingredients in a product if it's helpful or harmful as you learn The right way to do things then you consume that nutrition and then you feel you know you get the resulting feeling and performance gains from it, it goes back to trust the process, is that you just realized that you're on the right track, that there isn't anything else out there that's helping you have confidence you're on the right track, like your education program and then the resulting confidence building you get through performance and your blood markers and your body fat percentage and your overall health and well-being. All the things are there and you can't deny it. And there things that you can't get. You can't get in other programs or through trial and error. You just can't get it any other place. And you provide that level of competence through education experience and these power hours. I'm talking about the athletes. That's where the confidence comes from. And you can't get it any other way.

Kelly Estes (25:15)
I don't think you can get it. I mean, a lot of people think that they're doing the right things, but you have to ask yourself, how do you know? Is it because your friend said 'use this gel'? Is it because you read something in a book, but you really don't understand why it's working? Or if anything changes it up at all, how do you know if what you've changed is making a difference or not? If it's helping or hurting?

Taryn Richardson (25:36)
Yeah, so you just don't know what you don't know is a really good saying, which Steve says all the time. Like he thought he was doing a great job and eating really well and he thought he was kicking ass in recovery. And then I taught him how to do it. And he's like, man, I was way off. And so sometimes you think you're doing the right thing, but really just don't know what you don't know.

Kelly Estes (25:55)
Yeah. And so I think another important aspect is to say that there is a lot of knowledge and good information out there in books. It's not that everybody has the wrong information. It's that they don't know how to apply it. So what you bring to the table is not that you necessarily have an answer that isn't available someplace else. What you do is you bring it all together, and you put it in a nice little package and put a bowl around it where

An athlete knows that what they're doing is absolutely the right thing to do and here's why. And if you have to modify it or change it for a given situation, here's how to think about it or here's how to do it. so, you know, a of people out there do a lot of things that a lot of times they'll give you advice and sometimes they're right and sometimes they're not. And coming through the Triathlon Nutrition Academy has given me the ability to listen to their advice and know.

if they're giving me good advice or it's probably not so good.

Taryn Richardson (26:57)
Yeah, that's a good point because there's a lot of noisy voices in the triathlon space, isn't there?

Kelly Estes (27:03)
Yeah.

Taryn Richardson (27:06)
So if anybody's been watching along all week and they're still kind of sitting on the fence and their butt is getting sore, Kelly, what advice would you have for them?

Kelly Estes (27:14)
I would say that I mentioned before the insanity cycle of you try something, you try a gel and you hope it works or somebody told you you should do this, you should eat a banana here or you should eat peanut butter and jelly there or whatever they've told you to do at a given time. You never know if they're right or wrong. And even if you try it, you struggle knowing if it's right or not. Or if you do have problems, you don't know what you gotta do to get out of it or to fix it. And what was it that caused the problem to begin with? So I say to those people on the fence, stop the insanity cycle and just join the Triathlon Nutrition Academy and get that education, which will subsequently be followed by experience to prove that you're, how to apply that education and save yourself a lot of frustration, time and money. This is going to happen if you don't. If you don't join TNA, you're going to continue the insanity cycle until eventually you're just going to say, my god, how do I help myself?

Taryn Richardson (28:27)
And Kelly, you're saving more money per month than the program costs anyway.

Kelly Estes (28:33)
Yeah, it probably paid for itself in about four to five months in US dollars Yeah, it paid for itself. So it's paid for itself. I don't know how many it paid for itself three times a year almost You know because that $600 a month.

Taryn Richardson (28:52)
Amazing. Yep. And you're not alone in that. Like we talked to Joe on the podcast and she's saving an insane amount of money also. So it's just paid for itself. So if you're somebody that does take a lot of things or, know, you have a list of supplements or products and you still don't know if it's actually right for you or working for you, then I would question that and start a spreadsheet about how much it all costs and let's see what we can do to save you some cash.

Kelly Estes (29:22)
Yeah, right, because people are spending money on stuff and there's no way to know that they're helping themselves. They think they are helping themselves because they've read an article that explained the benefits of it, but is it benefiting you? Maybe, maybe not, how do you know? And it's just good to get that education, as well as having the power hour venue where if somebody comes to me and says, hey, Kelly, you really ought to be trying some kind of protein powder for race recovery. And I can come to power hour with that product and say, hey, you guys, hey, Taryn, what about this product? Is this a good product for me? Now, some of it, I already can evaluate myself because I have the knowledge and I can have a pretty good idea if I think it's beneficial or not. But I can also come to the brain trust and say, hey, is anybody else using it? What are you thinking?

Is there an application where it is beneficial or should I just avoid this altogether? And there's just so many products out there that having this power hour venue to come and ask those kinds of questions is unlike any other venue that I know that an athlete can come to and get good knowledge-based or fact-based advice on how to address that nutrition question.

Taryn Richardson (30:49)
I love that we also do that with non-nutrition things. You know, if somebody's looking for a new fueling belt or hydration vest or wetsuit, then like we've got so many athletes inside that have tried lots of things, figured out what works for them and can help be more directive with that. Cause that's one of the biggest battles is you need to spend so much time researching things and give me an expensive trial and error process. So I really enjoy the non-nutritional information bank that we all have amongst us as well.

Kelly Estes (31:16)
Yeah, it's great. it's great. I've been attending these every week for, you know, for since we finished the program, which has been two years ago. And I will continue to participate because it's such a valuable, it's just such a valuable experience for me to because there's so many things that keep coming up on the market. New equipment, new nutritional options and.

Taryn Richardson (31:39)
It's never ending.

Kelly Estes (31:41)
And it's just so nice to have a place to come to and get the answer right away so I don't waste, so I don't go into my own insanity cycle again on these new products of trying to figure out, buying it and trying it and wondering if it's gonna work or not.

Taryn Richardson (31:54)
Amazing. Well, thank you, Kelly. If any of that has struck a chord with you and you're interested in leveling up your nutrition with us, then Academy doors are open and you can go to dietitianapproved.com forward slash Academy to come and join us. Any famous last words, Kelly?

Kelly Estes (32:12)
Join sooner than later. The longer you wait, you're just continuing that insanity cycle. So help yourself. Join the Triathlon and Tourism Academy and come join me in power hours and let's get to know each other.

Taryn Richardson (32:28)
Thank you, Kelly.

Kelly Estes (32:30.772)
Thank you, Taryn.

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